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COLUMBUS, Ohio: We’re ready to celebrate Columbus Day right here in Columbus. Did you remember that October 12 is the original date. Happens to be on a Monday this year.

Another major event… National Farmers Day is always celebrated on Oct. 12, even if it isn’t a Monday.

In honor of our farmers and ranchers, let me share my Weekly Comments written October 1, 2018 (with a few edits).

Food in America is cheap. On average, we spend about 5 percent of available income on food at home, leaving 95 percent to spend on everything else, including food in restaurants and pet food. Only 1 percent of Americans are farmers, producing food for the other 99 percent, plus exporting a lot to other countries. Most people don’t know a farmer, and never even met or talked to one.

The low cost of food allows us to be choosy. In a large grocery store we have almost as many choices of dry cereal as we do of dog and cat food. If you have a question about a choice, do you ask a farmer or do you follow the advice of a stranger on social media?

Do you prefer Non-GMO food? Well, you’re in luck because only a handful of our food has been genetically modified. Soybeans, canola, corn (including sweet corn), cotton, sugar beets, alfalfa, papaya, squash, and a couple varieties of apples and potatoes. That’s all. And you’re probably not eating cotton or alfalfa. Farmers do not grow any GMO oats, GMO wheat, or GMO tomatoes. There are no GMO cows, hogs or chickens.

You have probably seen many packaged foods claiming to be Non-GMO. The packages are correct, except there are usually no versions of similar food that are GMO. All cereals of oats or wheat are non-GMO. Milk products are non-GMO.

Do you prefer non-GMO foods because you don’t want farmers to use a lot of chemicals? Surprise! The main purpose of genetic changes is so fewer chemicals are needed to reduce damage from insects, disease or weeds.

Do you know that many farmers grow crops (such as corn, soybeans, wheat and cotton) without plowing? In most of the country we call that “no-till farming.” No-till is a main component of “Regenerative agriculture” and the goal is to improve soil health. No-till improves water quality in streams and lakes, and reduces the barrels of oil needed for fuel. Cover crops are a key to maintaining and increasing yields of crops grown to sell. They are grown after the main crop has been harvested and to reduce the need for chemicals to manage weeds.

We could talk about organic farming (which often uses more chemicals and diesel fuel than no-till), locally grown food (delicious in summer), and free-range chickens (raccoons love ‘em).

The great news is that American food is so cheap a consumer is free to choose any source, even if it costs two or three times as much. And American farmers are happy to produce it.

Historic quotes by Will Rogers:

        “We always have good things to eat at my sister’s [Sallie McSpadden] in Chelsea [Okla.] … Beans, kinder soupy navy beans cooked with plenty of real fat meat. And then fried ham; they cure their own ham…They got their own cows and real cream. Ham gravy is just about the last word in gravys…Beans, cornbread, country ham, and gravy, and then just raw onions… Then for dessert? Don’t have room for any dessert. Had any more room would eat some more beans.” WA #449, August 2, 1931

         “Christopher Columbus landed on some islands, but they always stretched a point and give him the best of it and said he landed in America… Being an Indian, I don’t mind telling you that personally I am sorry he ever found us. The discovery of America has been of no material benefit to us, outside of losing all our land. I am proud to say that I have never yet seen a statue to him in Oklahoma.” WA #190, Aug. 1, 1926

Two weeks ago, I wrote about the confusion and concern surrounding AI. President Trump made our ranchers and dairy farmers happy by restoring AI to its traditional meaning, Artificial Insemination. According to Trump, Artificial Intelligence has been updated to a more complimentary term, Super Intelligence.

We already have Super Glue and the Super Bowl. So, it’s unlikely that “super” will be downgraded by associating it with Intelligence. Let’s get used to SI which may now be confused with Sports Illustrated.

Can we endure another month of campaign ads? You don’t have to be super intelligent to wonder why we spend Billions on TV ads, mostly complaining about the other side. Maybe candidates who can’t get elected based on their own merits should stay home and be forced to watch a constant stream of negative ads about themselves.

We are an interesting country. Perhaps confused. If the statistics are accurate, we have more people employed with the highest wages and salaries in history. And the lowest poverty rate.

I heard a comment on television that we are ‘wealthy and miserable at the same time.’  You might argue, yes, half of us are wealthy and the other half are miserable. But really, ALL of us are fortunate to be Americans. A few disgruntled folks flee to Europe, but you don’t see caravans heading south across the Rio Grande.

Historic quotes by Will Rogers:

         “Politics has got so expensive that it takes lots of money to even get beat with nowadays.” DT #1538, June 28, 1931

        “The way most people feel they would like to vote against all of ‘em if it was possible.” DT #1797, Apr. 27, 1932

COLUMBUS, Ohio: The United Nations opened with speeches by President Trump, Israel’s Netanyahu, and someone from Iran. Depending on who was speaking, different countries took turns getting out of their chairs and walking out of the building.

The UN is supposed to be a peace-keeping outfit where diplomats sit around a table, discuss disagreements, and try to avoid war. But the UN has turned into a money-grabbing operation where the poorest 80 percent demand money from the other 20 percent, especially us.

The United Nations occupies 18 acres in the middle of Manhattan that was donated by John D. Rockefeller, Jr. Those 18 acres could be the most valuable and productive commercial property in the world, but the occupants treat it like an ATM.  They are less interested in promoting world “peace” than in gathering a huge “piece” of the Trillions in banks around the world.

China’s president for life, Xi Jinping, visited the White House for discussions about the Economy, Artificial Intelligence and Taiwan. The main decision seems to be agreement to delay decisions. Xi did offer to buy more soybeans, but he is not pleased that we continue to support Taiwan. Perhaps it’s ironic that we have successfully opposed Communism invading Taiwan, but may not be able to keep it out of Congress.

Do you think China cares about the UN? Not a chance. China and the U.S. are the two powerhouses in the world. The UN couldn’t slow down China any more than the League of Nations could stop Hitler in 1933. (see quote below)

Last week my schedule was packed. Officers of the Ohio Professional Engineers organizations met for a strategy session on Monday, followed by a Toastmasters Club meeting that evening. Then the annual Ohio State University Farm Science Review was Tuesday to Thursday. Wet fields and chilly, cloudy, drizzly weather limited activities and attendance. Met and talked with many old friends and saw new technology demonstrated.

On Wednesday I skipped Farm Science Review to attend my high school class reunion in Weston, West Virginia (we met at Jackson’s Mill). You know the old joke about how everyone else looks so old at reunions. But my classmates have taken care of themselves and they look mighty good for their age. On a serious note, health issues were a main topic of discussion. And health problems kept several others from attending.

On Saturday, my daughter and I attended the Ohio State football game. Sat with a fellow retired faculty member and his wife. It was great to share experiences from 40+ years of friendship. The Buckeyes beat Illinois 42-19.

Historic quotes by Will Rogers:

          “Diplomats are just as essential to starting a war as soldiers are for finishing it.” Saturday Evening Post, June 9, 1928

         “So Germany left the League [of Nations]. The poor old League never had a chance, for it had no power. It tried to keep everybody good by having ‘em sign a pledge, but there was nothing they could do to you if you broke the pledge.” DT #2246, Oct. 15, 1933

Weekly Comments: What’s Opposite of Super Intelligent? (And a Personal Note)

 #1327    Sept. 20, 2026

COLUMBUS, Ohio: This newfangled AI (Artificial Intelligence) has a lot of people concerned, especially old Democrats in Washington (and a few Republicans). Most of them, even the ones living in a city, remember when AI was an animal husbandry term meaning Artificial Insemination. That “AI” has sent a lot of bulls out to pasture, and made superstars out of a few others. It was never a threat to human life. And it has made our steaks tastier and milk cheaper.

What has our leaders in Washington worried is that Artificial Intelligence has gotten super intelligent. My concern is kinda the opposite; American voters have gotten super stupid.

I read that only two-thirds of us know our Constitution provides for three branches of government: Executive, Legislative and Judicial. Every fifth grader learns that. But this knowledge must get washed out of their brains by the time they reach adulthood.

So many young folks think that socialism is better than capitalism. They not only don’t know the Constitution; they don’t know world history. For years after World War II, Russia was the USSR. They may remember USSR, but don’t know that it stands for “Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics.” Putin is determined to return Russia to its full “glory” as a Communist nation no matter how many Russians and Ukrainians die in the process.

And Cuba and Venezuela. Ask any family with roots in those countries about the fantastic lifestyle of socialism. You don’t see any Americans cobbling together a makeshift pontoon boat and sailing to Havana.

Remember the $5000 checks President Trump is offering? I saw a cartoon indicating that if the Democrat-Socialists win in November they will require that every American mail a $5000 check to them! That won’t happen either. I guess regardless of who wins, we’ll be lucky to break even.

On a personal note… you’ve heard me joke about “my” great-granddaughter Jennifer Rogers. I have to change now, no joke, because I have a great-granddaughter. Giana Katherine Bonavita was born Sept. 18 in Plymouth, Mass. She and mom are healthy and home today. When she gets into school, I bet she wins any contest for the name with the most syllables.

Historic quotes by Will Rogers:

        “You can’t legislate intelligence and common sense into people.” DT #2377, March 16, 1934

        “In schools they have what they call intelligence tests. Well, if nations held ‘em I don’t believe we would be what you would call a favorite to win it.” DT #2773, June 25, 1934

“The $5000 Question” may never reach the popularity of “The $64,000 Question” 70 years ago on CBS.

A few weeks ago, President Trump joked that he could run as a Socialist and win. Well, promising everyone a $5000 check in case his side wins sounds like something out of Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign playbook.

Let’s dig into this enticing offer. Did Trump offer $5000 to EVERY adult in the U.S., including non-citizens? Or only to all registered voters? Or only the ones who vote in this election? Only Republicans? Or only taxpayers, through a tax credit?

Of course, Sen. Sanders and Representative Ocasio-Cortez would suggest the $5000 go only to the bottom half of income earners and unemployed.

My suggestion is, don’t bet your last dollar on ever receiving a free $5000 check from Trump or any future Democrat Socialist president.

Here’s a favorite economic plan by Will, “Don’t gamble; take all your savings and buy some good stock, and hold it till it goes up, then sell it. If it don’t go up, don’t buy it.” (DT #1019, Oct. 31, 1929)

A more recent TV show was “Are you Smarter than a Fifth Grader?” Now, we are worried that AI (Artificial Intelligence) is becoming so smart it can outsmart our smartest scientists.

I’m just now beginning to learn about AI systems, such as ChatGPT and Google Notebook. I want you to know I’m writing this column myself. No AI outfit can be blamed for grammar or spelling errors that a fifth grader would catch.

Historic quote by Will Rogers:

        “Kemper Military Academy, one of the finest Military schools anywhere. I was two years there: one year in the guard house, and the other in [McGuffey’s] Fourth Reader.” WA #523, Jan.1, 1933 (Will was 18 when he left Kemper. His schooling ended with about a 10^th grade education.)

Weekly Comments: Will Rogers Joins Winston Churchill and Florence Nightingale. Remembering 9/11/2001.  

 #1325    Sept. 6, 2026

COLUMBUS, Ohio: I told you I would write about a wonderful annual gathering of rather “mature” professional speakers. Our group is called the Veteran Speakers Network. The conference includes about 60 speakers and a few spouses. Ages range from 50 to 98. Yes, 98-year-old Dave Yoho is still active, still speaking in his commanding voice.

Some might refer to us as an “Over the hill gang.” However, three-fourths of us are still in the business of grabbing a microphone and holding onto an audience as long as they invite us to share wisdom, inspiration, motivation and laughter.

We meet in Herndon, Virginia. It’s close to Washington, but far enough away that we mostly avoid politics. One highlight each year is honoring a new group of “Legends of Professional Speaking.” The five honored this year are Tim Gard, Ron Karr, Scott Friedman, Liz Weber, and (posthumously) Og Mandino, who wrote “The Greatest Salesman in the World.”

You might recall that two years ago, Will Rogers was also honored, which I referred to as “post-humorously.”

We always have an hour of entertainment on Friday evening. Can you believe it, this year it was a conversation, led by Terry Brock, with Florence Nightingale, Winston Churchill, and Will Rogers.

Young folks may not realize that Florence Nightingale was the founder of modern nursing. She is portrayed by Dr. Candy Campbell, an award-winning nurse herself, an acclaimed actor, and author. Winston Churchill led Britain through WWII, enduring the constant bombing by the German air force. Randy Otto has been performing as Winston for 55 years. And then there was me, determined to keep up with these pros. The audience was fantastic. They appreciated the history and laughed with and not at us.

Friday, Sept. 11, will be the 25^th anniversary of the horrible attack led by radical Islamist Osama bin Ladin. Today, it’s hard to believe we have elected officials and candidates, including the mayor of New York City, who justify or refuse to condemn, the attacks that killed almost 3000 people.

Radical Muslims have been attacking, killing, and enslaving us and others around the world for centuries. President Thomas Jefferson sent the Navy to the Mediterranean Sea in 1801 to stop the Barbary Pirate attacks on merchant ships. President Trump took on radical Muslims in Iran to eliminate their goal of killing us with nuclear weapons. You may debate details, but no other President in 46 years took effective action against the Muslim leaders who continue to shout, “Death to America.”

Politics rev up after Labor Day. Republicans will meet this week in Dallas. The Democrat Socialists of America met last week in Chicago. In most of the contested elections (excluding the one-sided ones) for Congress and the Senate, voters will have a clear distinction between candidates.

Historic quotes by Will Rogers:

          “Tomorrow is Labor Day. I suppose created by an act of Congress… How Congress knew anything about labor is beyond us… It’s a day in the big cities when men march all day and work harder than they have in any other of the 365.” DT #967, Sept. 1, 1929

         “Democrats are attacking and Republicans are defending. All the Democrats have to do is promise ‘what they would do if they got in.’ But the Republicans have to promise ‘what they would do’ and then explain why they haven’t already ‘done it.’” DT #1917, Sept. 26, 1932

 

Tonight, Will Rogers himself is writing this column.

I was sad to learn that Dolly Parton died. I heard a couple of folks say we have several similarities.

I wrote a lot of words, almost 2 million total, that got published in newspapers across the country. I got paid quite well for those words.

Dolly was a whole lot smarter as a writer. She wrote fewer words, but they rhymed! And she sang those words, and let others sing ‘em too.

See, the difference is, I got paid once. She gets paid every time her songs are bought and played on radio, and paid even more when other great singers record her rhyming words.

Now, right there’s a huge difference. I’m not a singer. I joked one time about two singers on a Vaudeville show with me. Honestly, they were not good. They called themselves the Cherry Sisters. I said they must have been named before lemons were invented. And my singing was worse. More like prunes.

Dolly and I both came from rural America, her from the Smokey Mountains and me from Indian Territory. I said one time, “I’m just an old country boy living in a big town trying to get along. I’ve been eatin’ pretty regular and the reason I have been is because I’ve stayed an old country boy.” Dolly could make the exact same quote, changing it to “country girl.”

She and other poor folks from East Tennessee were called hillbillies. Folks from my area became known as Okies. As Dolly said once, we may not have been as sophisticated as city folks, but we were blessed with common horse sense.

We both know the value of reading. I said, “We learn by two things: one is reading, the other is associatin’ with smarter people.” I also said, many times, “All I know is what I read in the newspaper.” Dolly did most of her reading in books. And she has made sure that our young children get plenty of books to read, with a gift program called Imagination Library.

I read a wonderful compliment to both me and Dolly from a former councilman in the Cherokee Nation, Keith Austin. He wrote, ‘They have the kind of universal fame that allows them to connect with kings and queens, movie stars and presidents, while still speaking directly to the common man and woman. Both helped us see and connect with people who lived and believed differently, not by lecturing, but through humor, music, storytelling and kindness.’

Keith, I thank you for those kind words. And I know Dolly appreciates them and all of the other thousands or millions of accolades since her untimely death.

I’ve heard suggestions that a statue of her should be sculpted and placed in the Tennessee Capitol. And attach her name to the airport in Nashville. Now, with humility, I know a little bit about statues and naming airports.

Actually, I prefer having her statue in the U.S. Capitol. Each state has two. One representing Tennessee is John Sevier, an honorable former governor. Now I hope my Cherokee blood is not making me prejudiced, but Dolly Parton should replace the other one in there, Andrew Jackson.

I would be mighty proud to have her placed right next to me. You probably see me frequently on television because I’m near the entrance to the House of Representatives. I guarantee that when various Congressmen are interviewed on news programs with us standing proudly behind them, viewers would prefer seeing Dolly’s smile and beautiful, ahem, shapely body, more than mine.

I just returned from a wonderful conference of “older” professional speakers in the DC area. Next week I’ll tell you about it, including a delightful 60-minute conversation with Winston Churchill and Florence Nightingale. Yes, the three of us were interviewed by Terry Brock, in an updated version of the old Steve Allen program, Meeting of the Minds.

COLUMBUS, Ohio: We got hit with the News that our Federal Debt is $40,000,000,000,000. Last week I mentioned that in 1925 our debt was $20,000,000,000. Is it possible our debt is 2000 times higher than 100 years ago? Both Republican and Democrat Parties share the blame.

If we treat this like a family debt, the question is, what are you willing to cut back on? It’s easy to name items that others are receiving, but what are YOU willing to reduce by 10 percent?

A water crisis in 7 Western states is raising a similar question. Severe, historic drought in the Colorado River basin means water usage must be curtailed or hydroelectric power generation will come to a halt at major dams.

While Congress can create money out of thin air (increasing the Debt), no one short of God Almighty can create more rain and snow in the Rockies. Few Americans remember a time when a hand pump was the fresh water source instead of simply turning a knob at the sink.

Meanwhile, here in the East we would eagerly share some of the excess rainfall from the last few weeks. Parts of West Virginia, Ohio, and other states suffered devastating floods. In two weeks, I emptied 10.5 inches out of my rain gauge.

President Trump is in a tariff dispute with Canada. Between good neighbors, there shouldn’t be any tariffs. And any tariffs the U.S. and Canada put on imports from other countries should be equal. It’s common horse sense for each of us to produce whatever we do best.

Canada’s got lumber, if they don’t let their forests burn. They have an abundance of water, quite a bit in the form of ice.

We have warm beaches and our farmers produce crops and livestock that don’t grow well up North. They have crude oil and we have refineries. They produce hockey players and we hire the best ones to play here.

Historic quotes by Will Rogers:

        “Everybody here is excited over the proposed dam at Boulder Canyon on the Colorado… California wants all the power and water. Arizona says, ‘Just half of it belongs to you, so if you want to, why dam up your own side of the river and use it, but don’t use any of our side.’ Utah says, ‘You are both cuckoo.’ WA #76, May 25, 1924

        “The dam is entirely between Nevada and Arizona. All California gets out of it is the water.” DT #1900, Sept. 6, 1932

COLUMBUS, Ohio: “Will Rogers” will be speaking at an annual event of the American Farm Bureau Federation this week. I am including some history here from a hundred years ago.

On December 7, 1925, President Coolidge addressed the American Farm Bureau Convention in Chicago with over 5000 farmers. (In comparison, my speech Tuesday evening will be in Columbus to about 50 farmers.)

The convention was at the historic Sherman House. Will Rogers was there and took notes. He wrote a Weekly Article, dissecting the speech. You folks probably do something similar. You hear promises and phrases in a speech by a politician, then you interpret in your own mind what he or she said. Here are a few examples I plan to share.

President Coolidge said, ‘The future of farming looks exceedingly secure.’  Will’s response, “Of course it’s secure. In fact, it’s SECURED, mostly by 2 mortgages.”

He tried to console the farmers by telling them, ‘There’s lots of people worse off than the farmers.’  “Well, I don’t know who could be worse off unless it’s the fellow who holds the mortgages on the farm.”

Coolidge said, ‘I want you to know the government is with you.’ “The Government IS with them. The government owes 20 Billion and the farmer owes all he’s got.”

He reminded them about generous farm Loans. ‘We have loaned out over one billion dollars to 350,000 farmers.’ “In other words, we can’t help you make any money, but we can show you where you can owe some more.”

[This is from Weekly Article #158, Dec. 20, 1925]

Keep in mind, this was in the middle of the Roaring Twenties. The economy was growing. The stock market was setting new records. Women in town were dancing the Charleston and wore flapper skirts with hems above the knee!

In case you’re wondering, Will liked President Coolidge. And the President liked Will. He invited Will and Betty to the White House and they stayed overnight. You may know that Coolidge campaigned on “Economy.” And he was economical; for supper they served fish hash. And the next morning, breakfast was leftover fish hash.

Later, Will offered his own advice to farmers: “If you don’t raise anything you are fortunate. Because it costs you more to raise anything that you can sell it for, so the less you raise, the less you lose. And if you don’t raise anything, you’re ahead.” (WA #235, June 12, 1927)

With the ’26 election looming, the historic quotes below definitely apply.

Historic quotes by Will Rogers:

          “The Democrats have a lot of advantages over the Republicans. The Republicans have to stay in power and explain why they haven’t done what they promised to, while the Democrats can just set back and talk about what they WILL do if they get in. That’s why the Democrats can always make a better speech than the Republicans. Promises always sound better than explanations. The Republicans ran on their record, which was a brave thing to do. The Democrats ran on their promises, which was a natural thing to do.”  (from a Weekly Article, maybe after the 1924 election)

“There is one thing you can bet on this year. No voter is going to do anything that a politician thinks he will do. The way most people feel they would like to vote against all of ‘em if it was possible.” DT #1797, Apr. 27, 1932

COLUMBUS, Ohio: Are you interested in saving the Democrat Party from calamity? In Michigan, Democrats nominated a highly educated, slick talking Socialist-Communist as their nominee for the Senate.

This may be my last attempt.  You’ve heard “me” say often, “I’m not a member of any organized party. I’m a Democrat.” The token leaders are proclaiming proudly they are a “Big Tent” Party. Everybody is welcome.

A few decades, ago, the Democrat Party occupied a prominent site, built of steel, concrete and brick on a foundation of solid rock. Presidents such as
Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, and Clinton. Now they have traded a secure, paid-for, structure that has weathered many storms for a highly mortgaged tent. The “Big Tent” that Democrats are bragging about is made of canvas, supported by thin aluminum poles. The tie-down straps are wrapped around plastic posts driven six inches into pure sand. The flimsy walls sway with the breeze, which ever way the wind blows. Interlopers can easily get their nose under the flap and slip in.

Meanwhile, the hard-working middle class, proud flag-waving Americans who manufacture and build our economy have slipped out.

Who are the Democrats who voted for Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan? And earlier, Ocasio-Cortez and Mamdani in New York City?

A couple of analysts I’ve seen on television broke down support for Abdul El-Sayed this way: college towns, with highly educated, “downwardly mobile”, women supported him. Other areas of the state (including minorities) voted for two other candidates. Dr. El-Sayed has impressive medical degrees but never became licensed to practice medicine. He went directly into college teaching and government health administration without ever treating patients or doing surgeries.

Before I get into criticizing college degrees as a whole, let me exclude graduates in engineering, nursing, business, physics and other degrees that result in secure careers. The ones who blindly support Socialist principles chose easier courses at expensive universities and find themselves worse off financially than a high school classmate who became a plumber.

If you ask them, many of these folks agree with the economic principle of “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” Yes, take excess cash from millionaires and provide free housing, food and medical care to the downtrodden masses. Perhaps these folks were not taught that quote in history class. It is from the founder of Communism, Karl Marx, in 1875.

Voters, especially young ones, complain about affordability. It’s true that a single mom or dad with college loans, working at McDonald’s, can’t afford the mortgage on a $400,000 house. But they probably don’t realize that since the end of WWII, the percentage of our income spent on food, clothing and furniture has DECREASED.

Taxpayers already provide free food to 40,000,000. And most poor families receive Medicaid. More than 70% of federal income tax dollars come from the top 10% of wage earners.

Why do so many highly educated Democrats lack common sense? (Or as Will Rogers would say, common horse sense?) Did no one teach common sense principles of working hard, finishing the job to the best of your abilities, serving your community, and aspiring to a better life for yourself and your family?

Instead of common horse sense, were socialist principles pushed by school teachers and college professors? Did they reverse JFK’s famous comment to “Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you?” Are they claiming that any college degree is fine; don’t bother with tough courses?

Maybe, like Arizona State University is saying, get a degree in “Influencing.” Be a slick talker, attract a few million viewers on social media and you’re set for life. You might even get elected to Congress.

Historic quotes by Will Rogers:

        “America is a land of opportunity and don’t ever forget it… [Florence Hale] was elected to a very high office, president of the [National] Education Association [NEA], just a common sense woman. She is head of the rural schools in Maine.” DT #1541, July 1, 1931

       “If all politicians fished instead of speaking publicly, we would be at peace with the world.” DT #2251, Oct. 20, 1933